Owners and Management


Serving Southern California Since 1987


Michael T. Chulak
President, Owner, and Chief Financial Officer


Born in Los Angeles, Michael Chulak obtained a Bachelor of Science degree in Business Administration from California State University at Los Angeles and a Juris Doctor from Ventura-Santa Barbara College of Law. He became a California real estate broker in 1971, a general contractor in 1979, and an attorney in 1998. In 1979, he earned the Certified Property Manager® (CPM®) designation. Michael is one of the owners of Pacific-Realtors.net. He has been a real estate, property management, homeowner association, and real estate finance instructor at six California colleges including UCLA.

Michael Chulak formerly served as president and CEO of Union America Mortgage and Equity Trust (UMET), a New York Stock Exchange listed Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) that owned, managed, and sold apartment buildings and commercial properties in nineteen states. Michael was also a partner in an accounting firm for more than five years.

Michael Chulak has written legal columns for several newspapers and hosted a radio talk show on KVTA AM 1520 and KRLA 840 known as On the Law with Attorney Michael Chulak.


Michael Schaller
Vice President and Director of Training


Before joining Pacific-Realtors.net, Michael Schaller founded and operated two Century 21 offices in Agoura Hills and Thousand Oaks where he trained and supervised more than 120 real estate agents in sales, property management, and leasing. Both offices received the prestigious Centurion Office Award for production and quality service, annually for a period exceeding 15 years. Michael also opened and ran a real estate school where he assisted hundreds of students obtain a real estate license in California.

Today, Michael Schaller, recruits, trains, and mentors real estate agents for PacificRealtors.net. Michael obtained his California real estate sales license in 1995 and his brokers license in 1999. He became licensed as a general contractor in California in 1979.


Natalie Oliver
Manager-Residential Division


Natalie Oliver is the manager of our residential division and our top sales and leasing agent. She has been a resident of the Conejo Valley since 1980 and joined Pacific-Realtors.net in 2016.

After starting her career as a loan officer in Thousand Oaks, Natalie advanced to become the office manager of a large commercial and residential real estate office in Westlake Village. Since then, she has continued to grow and build her career as a real estate agent specializing in sales, leasing, and property management. Natalie has been a member of the Apartment Owners Association for more than 30 years which helps her stay up-to date on required disclosures and new laws that apply to the business of managing properties.

Natalie has earned an excellent reputation for her personal service, honest dealings, and outstanding negotiating skills. She is also fluent in Russian.

Whether buying or selling, she aims to get the best possible price for her clients.


Edward Hakopian
Senior Broker


Edward Hakopian has been a licensed California Real Estate Broker since 1998. He earned his Bachelor's degree in Business and Management from Tehran University, Iran in 1979 and his Master's degree in Industrial Management from Frankfurt University, Germany in 1982.

Prior to becoming a real estate broker, he worked for a local real estate developer mainly in the areas of construction financing and property management for more than ten years.

In 2013, Edward graduated from Southern California Institute of Law, in Ventura, California with a Juris Doctor Degree. Edward Hakopian specializes in the acquisition, sale, and management of businesses and investment properties in California.

Edward Hakopian's business and legal education, along with years of experience, has made him a major asset to our clients.


Tina Chulak
Office Manager


Tina Chulak is an owner and the office manager of Pacific-Realtors.net and its affiliated companies. Tina is involved in marketing the company primarily in Los Angeles and the San Gabriel Valley. Tina speaks Mandarin Chinese, the dialect from her home city of Wenzhou, China, and, of course, English. Tina is Vice-President of the U. S. Wenzhou Association, the Los Angeles Wenzhou Chamber of Commerce USA, and the Zhejiang Chamber of Commerce. Tina is also a member of the Board of Directors of the Conejo Valley Chinese Cultural Association (CCCA) which operates a Chinese language school with over 500 students. Tina can be reached directly at 818-661-9255.


Franklin Thomas


Franklin Thomas has over 50 years of experience as a real estate executive involved in sales, lending, and development. After graduating from San Jose State University, his first position was a right-of-way agent for the California Division of Highways where he gained experience acquiring and managing numerous land parcels. Frank Thomas then changed fields to real estate lending working for Home Savings, the George Elkins Company, Glendale Federal Savings, and Lincoln Savings. During this time he was a real estate appraiser, loan officer and manager, construction loan disbursement officer, and Executive Vice President and Managing Officer of Lifetime Savings of Granada Hills, a subsidiary of Lincoln Savings.

Subsequently, Frank Thomas joined Continental Mortgage Investors, a New York Stock Exchange listed REIT specializing in financing second home communities and large commercial developments. At Continental, he was an executive responsible for a large portfolio of development loans in Washington and Alaska which required extensive workouts.

Later, as an independent consultant, Frank Thomas worked with banks and developers providing project management, and consulting services. This culminated in his becoming a developer and participating as General Partner and Manager of two waterfront lot sale developments in Long Beach.

Frank Thomas was part of the investor group that started Long Beach Savings. He served as a founding Director, Executive Vice President, and Chief Loan Officer for ten years. He was on the Executive Committee which oversaw the activities of the land development subsidiary and all commercial development ventures.

Subsequently, he accepted the position of managing the REO Sales Division of a large national mortgage banking company. REO was sold in 23 states with an average of 800 homes sold each year.

Frank Thomas is a resident of Naples Island (Long Beach) and a member of the Long Beach Yacht Club. He has worked closely with the broker of Pacific-Realtors.net for more than 50 years.


Robert A. Koenig
General Counsel


Robert A. Koenig is General Counsel of Pacific-Realtors.net and has worked with Michael Chulak for more than 25 years.

Robert A. Koenig has been licensed to practice law in California and Nevada since 1987 and Colorado since 1992. He is a graduate of the University of California at Los Angeles (1980) and Pepperdine University School of Law in Malibu, California (1984).